Today we are meeting a reader who has three college degrees, but amazingly enough, she’s about to completely pay off her student loans. Color me impressed!
1. Tell us a little about yourself
This actually feels funny to write because I have had to write many a bio and I think it always feels so strange.
So here goes: I have three higher education degrees, finally landing on a Ph.D. so I am done! I work as a therapist/adjunct professor.

from my travels
I have lived in what I consider the South for the last several years, and I love to travel, read, and hike.
I love that it is possible to do some great things and not spend a lot. You just have to be creative, also I actually like to check out local grocery stores! I think you get a unique insight into a place.
2. How long have you been reading The Frugal Girl?
I think the last five years maybe longer, I really cannot remember.
I know I started when Kristen was a homeschooling mom. I started reading a ton of blogs probably 12 years ago and have sporadically kept up ever since, so I may have found Kristen earlier.
3. How did you get interested in saving money?
My parents experienced financial trauma during the recession in 2008. This has deeply affected me to this day.
There was a lot that went on, including our landlord letting the rental that we were living in go into foreclosure without telling us.
I know that I have a lot of fear about having enough money to be okay but this fear has also been kind of helpful when I have had to deal with a lot of unexpected expenses.
4. What’s the “why” behind your money-saving efforts?
The financial trauma I mentioned and desiring financial security were big reasons. I want to have flexibility and freedom and to be able to deal with the unexpected.
5. What’s your best frugal win?
Not being afraid to try out different approaches and be creative.
Even after I got my Master’s, I ended up living with my sister and helping her as a babysitter for a while. I moved in with another relative for the last couple of months to save more money and pay off student loans. I should be done paying them all off by the end of the year.
6. What’s an embarrassing money mistake you’ve made?
I am going to say this counts as a money mistake because it was a pricey mess up: I once tried to do a DIY phone screen repair.
What I did not realize was that cell phone batteries are extremely flammable. My phone burst into flames and ended up burning a hole in my roommate’s rug and damaging the flooring underneath.
My landlord was super understanding but I replaced my roommate’s rug and had to buy a whole new phone. It is moments like that which remind me that sometimes DIY is not less expensive.
7. What’s one thing you splurge on?
Good shoes.
I tore the ligaments on both sides of my ankle and then had to have it surgically repaired, which was quite an expensive process as you can imagine.
My physical therapist who worked with me after surgery told me I could mess up the surgery if I wore the wrong shoes, so I have been buying supportive shoes and my feet hurt less. The whole surgery experience was so intense, and I could not walk for awhile.
Now I am just so appreciative and grateful for my feet, so I want to take good care of them.
Also, years ago, in Laura Vanderkam’s book All the Money in the World, that it is always cheaper to buy things at the grocery store. I have taken this to heart and will buy more convenience foods, but on the flip side, I basically never eat out.
8. What’s one thing you aren’t remotely tempted to splurge on?
This question is tough because I think there are a lot of things I might be tempted to splurge on but would successfully talk myself out of. Maybe professional hair dye?
My mind is boggled by paying like $300 for something that has to be constantly redone and does not last.
I am intrigued by some other hair treatments though, so who knows.
9. If $1000 was dropped into your lap today, what would you do with it?
Probably put it towards paying off my student loans or saving it for future travel.
I actually need to work on spending my money in ways that matter to me and bring me joy. Travel is one such thing for me and I have not done it in awhile.
10. What’s the easiest/hardest part of being frugal?
Being intentional.
Last year I went to a concert and my friend who I was with talked about all the concerts she had been to. I think I realized in that moment that because this was such a rare experience for me it brought me such joy.
I have also found that when it comes to buying things, it’s important to really slow down and have more intention and savor the experience.
11. Is there anything unique about frugal living in your area?
I have lived in more southern states for several years now and I love being able to enjoy nature year-round.
Although this is not unique, I think being aware of the resources that are available to you is really helpful.
For instance, when I was in school, I ended up working with the school lawyer who helped me deal with a tough landlord situation. I would have never reached out and gotten it handled without having that resource available so I was so grateful to know things like that were available.
12. Do you have any tips for frugal travel or vacations?
I love to travel so this is a big one for me. I love using the app Hopper to find good flight deals. You set alerts for places and times so this has been super helpful. I have used it for rental cars too.

the Panama canal
Also: staying with friends and people you know in different places and bringing snacks, always snacks. When I fly, I bring so many snacks because airport prices are just appalling.
When it comes to flights I am a sucker for cheap flight and I am not afraid to think through alternatives. I have slept in my car on more than one occasion while traveling.
13. What is something you wish more people knew?
Avoid credit card debt! And start an IRA as young as possible. I tell this to my younger siblings all the time.
The interest rates on credit card debt are INSANE. My Dad told me to pay off my credit card monthly which I have always done, in fact it happens automatically from my bank account.

The Alamo in Texas
I am always stunned by the interest rates on credit cards and how tough it can be to catch up when you get behind. I am so grateful to have never fallen into that trap. The IRA thing is because of the power of compounding interest.
A couple years ago, I read Ramit Sethi’s book “I will teach you to be rich” and I have really resonated with his approach. It is a great book but one of things that I finally understood was how compounding interest works.
14. Which is your favorite type of post at the Frugal Girl and why?
I love the gratitude posts as it reminds me to be more grateful. I also like reading about the tiny frugal things. I have always loved the insights that blogging gives into someone else’s ordinary world.
When it comes to the small frugal things I love this quote that the internet tells me is by Annie Dillard: “How we spend our days is how we spend our lives.”
The small moments of intention and frugality are how we live our lives and I know Kristen has helped me be so much more mindful and intentional.
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Emily, as I said above, I am so impressed you are about to be free of student loans as a Ph.D.! Good work.
I love the picture of the gold tray with the blue plate; I know you said that was from your travels, but I’m wondering where, and what the drink is.
Also, is the snowy lake picture at Lake Tahoe?
Thank you for the Hopper app tip. I’ll check it out because when I am done with nursing school, oh hey, I could actually go somewhere!
K
Tuesday 13th of May 2025
Thank you for your story! What a fascinating life you lead. I'm so impressed by your travels, and that you almost have your student loans paid off! What a feat that will be. I have always been fascinated by the panama canal, your pictures are awesome! I agree wholeheartedly about how we spend our daily life is how we spend our life. I feel like I'm much more aware of that as I am approaching the empty nest phase of life.
Fru-gal Lisa
Wednesday 7th of May 2025
Phew! I don't know how people cope with student loans! So happy for you that yours is about to be over and done with. When I was in 2nd grade, my frugal and incredibly sensible mom took a school job and signed up for extra work each summer. (That was a scandal since most of my friends had SAHMs, or teacher moms who took summer off; mom did not have a college degree, only a biz school certificate, and was an office worker). Mom put all her summer pay into a savings account (this was when interest wasn't so ridiculously low as it is today). After a decade, she had enough money to completely cover my first year of (a lower-cost state) college (and partially pay for the next three). Being very focused on this goal, she made plenty of sacrifices, refusing to touch the college fund even when my father got laid off; he had a years-long stint of unemployment. Between Mom and my college job, and living in the cheapest (old haunted) dorm, and getting one scholarship as a senior, we didn't have to borrow any money for my college. I graduated debt-free! I did not realize what a HUGE blessing this was until I was 30 and buying an older starter house (very small 3 BR 1BA) under a First Time Homebuyer program. Meanwhile, most of my (same or similar aged) coworkers couldn't buy houses due to their student loans; as years went on and prices went up, they were paying more in rent for terrible 1 BR apartments or mobile homes than I paid in mortgage. Oh, and the SAHMs who criticized Mom for working? They and their kids were up to their eyeballs in college debt! Again, I'm very happy you are about to pay yours off! And congrats on your Ph.D! That is fantastic!!!
MB in MN
Wednesday 7th of May 2025
Emily, I enjoyed your interesting post! I'm glad the mental health field has someone like you in it. Allegria has good shoes, too. Pricey but worth the support they provide. Kudos on all of your educational and financial accomplishments!
K D
Wednesday 7th of May 2025
Ph.D. Emily from the South,
Thank you for sharing an interview. It was great to read about all that you've accomplished and I love your advice about credit card debt and IRA savings.
Ally
Wednesday 7th of May 2025
I had no idea phone batteries were so flammable so I really appreciate you sharing this mistake!! I can very easily see myself in this same situation.
Also excited to see a meet a reader with a PhD as well! I'm a scientist and I think what people might not know about the PhD is that usually they don't cost money (at least this is true for STEM fields). As a PhD graduate student, I received a stipend that covered my living expenses and did not pay tuition myself. That said, there was an opportunity cost in the sense that I was making way less money than I would have had at a 'real job.' For Masters degrees though, usually the student does have to pay themselves and it is often comparable to what you pay for undergrad. A Masters is not necessary to enter a PhD program though, most of our students apply directly from undergrad without one. Some PhD programs will grant a Masters degree (which would be free) as part of completing coursework. My program did not, so I only have Bachelors and PhD, no Masters! Anyway, I felt compelled to share because I didn't know anyone with a PhD growing up and would never have contemplated this career path if I had to take out even more loans for graduate school.
Ally
Thursday 8th of May 2025
@Emily, its very interesting to see the differences between programs and disciplines, thank you for sharing!
Emily
Wednesday 7th of May 2025
@Ally, It is nice to meet someone else with a PhD. I did not know anyone who had one either and so the whole idea was quite foreign for me. For most counselor education PhD programs which is what I did, you have to have a Master's degree before you can even apply. My school did offer some work study options so they gave us a stipend that in no way covered living expenses and covered part of our tuition at times. I just kept my regular job and worked a bit less to balance it all. It was the hardest thing that I have ever done.